The American Idol 2015 auditions are set to start airing soon with the Season 14 start date of January 7, 2015 drawing near, but now Adam Lambert’s fans have an extra reason to be excited.
Last season’s panel of American Idol judges are returning again this year with Harry Connick Jr., Jennifer Lopez, and Keith Urban, but when Urban had to briefly step away from the Idol auditions back in September for family reasons, Adam Lambert stepped in.
One of the latest promos from FOX shows Adam laughing at Harry’s silliness between auditions, something we’ve come to expect from the excellent addition to the panel last season.
Check out the screenshots featuring Adam in a seat many fans thought he might have nicely filled on a regular basis and get ready to see if he’s got what it takes to be an American Idol 2015 judge.
American Idol 2015 Auditions – Sneak Peek with Adam Lambert:
I hope Adam didn’t copy the “VOICE” and say every contestant auditioning was “WONDERFUL”! Wait, the Voice prescreens contestants “PRIOR” to their on stage singing in front of the “COACHES”! Easier when you only have a few (instead of thousands) to hear from your “GIMMICKY” back turned chairs.
The fact that The Voice pre-screens auditions to make sure people have some level of musical talent makes it infinitely more watchable for me!
Totally agree. I get so sick and tired of Idol’s joke contestants during the auditions round.
William Hung and Sanjaya are two of the reasons The Voice was created in
the first place. Yes, I know some people enjoy watching the train
wrecks on Idol, but it’s that very reason I stopped watching Idol.
The VOICE is the worst competition show ever. You have judges Exalting themselves and because it’s all about which “judge” will WIN with their choice, they never give honest critique because they want their contestants pick to Win..so they Win! WHAT A COMPLETE JOKE!
American Idol is the Only show that has discovered real deal Superstars with long successful careers. The AI judges have NO vested interest in the contestants so they can critique fairly to find the next real Superstar. If AI takes the focus off the judges and back onto the contestants, it will remain the top show.
In my opinion, “Idol”’s lackluster performance over the past few seasons relates to the key word that isn’t used on “The Voice”: Judges. While Simon
Cowell’s snarky remarks made us laugh, I think that
society in general is a little tired of being judged, judging others and watching other people judge other people. While, yes, this year’s
judges provide guidance and criticism in a kinder manner than Cowell, the personal, mentoring style of the coaches on The Voice caters to what viewers want.
I want to see that the coaches keep in
touch with contestants. I want to see them having family dinner at Blake’s house. I don’t want to hear “well, it was pitchy” ever again for the rest of my life. It’s camaraderie and unity that people gravitate
to, and “The Voice” really latched onto that and executes it perfectly.
Exactly! The role of the celebrities on The Voice is to be coaches, NOT judges.
These are singing competitions…to find the next Superstar in a Real hard core cut throat music industry! If you don’t have the total package on what it takes you will not have any success! American Idol is the Real Deal who have produced REAL SUPERSTARS because they give Honest Critique that is needed to toughen them up. You can’t coddle these people who want to be on stage in front of millions, who want to sell millions of records and have radio play! That is WHY AI is the only show with so many real lasting stars.
The VOICE is a sham…it’s ridiculous. You have self indulgent judges more interested in pimping Their Own music AND because it’s set up for the Judges to ” WIN” if their picks of the liter win, they will never give honest critique…and they don’t…because that would sway the voting public. It’s a Ridiculous show. They have never produced a Star! American Idol needs to go back to the basics and it will rise to the top.
I advise you to see Girly Girl’s post below and I second Voice Fan’s response to Girly Girl’s post.
It’s up to the contestants to utilize the exposure they get from these shows.
Although a handful of Idol alums are now huge stars who will probably
stick around for at least the next 5-10 years, I think a long-lasting
music career comes down to more than just skill.
The music industry has changed and there are SO many
different singing shows in the U.S and other countries that its all
really about luck and having the ability to distinguish yourself from
everyone else out there in the music industry AND of course
releasing the right single at the right time.
I love how the Voice finds musicians that are so great and so original
and talented like Dia Frampton from season 1 or Juliett Simms or even
Michelle Chamuel from season 4. They may not be superstars yet or
ever but I still enjoy listening to the quality that is their voice and
artistry. I don’t care if they dont become superstars I love how the
Voice introduced me to these talents and that’s all that matters
The Voice has had a lot of winners who are niche artists. Their only 2 “mainstream” winners are the two country females (Cassadee Pope and
Danielle Bradbery). And especially in the current music industry climate, it’s very hard to turn a niche artist into a star, let alone a superstar. Their last 2 winners aren’t just niche artists, they are
old-school types, to boot. They also got a late start; by the time The Voice came along, the general music buying public and radio programming
directors seemed like they were pretty sick of new reality show contestants flooding the market; unless you came out with a hit song right away (like Scotty McCreery & Phillip Phillips), people lost interest. Idol contestants had a head start since the show’s been arounda lot longer. So it makes sense that they would have more successful contestants. Who knows what would have happened if both shows had come on the air at the same time?
It would be nice if there were more superstars or even stars coming off Idol, The Voice, X-Factor, but
that’s not too realistic. I’m just happy that most of them have been able to carve out careers in the music/entertainment industry to the point where they seem able to support themselves and their families
financially. And, as others have said before, most of them are probably better off in terms of where their career is now, then they were before they went on AI, The Voice, X-Factor, etc.
Your last paragraph is why I propose that Champion and Yvette and others here quit fussing about The Voice vs. Idol. Just be happy that these people are better off than they were before they went on these shows.
The all powerful Music Industry controls everything~Radio play, Record releases and who they sign to a contract and these competitions shows. Their ONLY interest is making MONEY~and lots of it. The Industry is not sick of these shows..they Control, Produce and run them so they can find the next huge money making star. So it has Nothing to do with when the show started.
American Idol is a Phenomenon and they want to capitalize on this so they produce more. The Voice has not produced a Star because it’s a show to Pimp and help out the judges careers. The Voice is not about the contestants.
Plus, when you have a competition you need unbiased judges. These judges can not judge if they are also competing against each other to win 1st place. Its like putting your own parent in to judge you…it’s silly.
Regardless of what show it is, it’s rare to find Superstars like Kelly, Carrie, Daughtry, Jennifer and they will Never find anyone more Talented than Adam Lambert.
When these Voice judges keep saying “Your more Talented than anyone ever on any singing show” they sound Ridiculous!
Just like Champion, you don’t get it.
Agreed! Yvette and Champion have ridiculous expectations.
We “SEE” the facts. Click onto the American idol “SUPERSTARS” video and get schooled!
No. You don’t.
My two cents:
I think that even though it probably helped Idol that Kelly and Carrie became so successful, it isn’t fair to compare every other winner of every singing competition in the US to to them, and to do so actually hurts the shows. Saying they were the only ones that were successful implies every other winner was a failure, when in fact some have been moderately successful.
It might be more of the exception that they did become superstars after being launched from this type of show, with the norm being more moderate success that we have seen from these shows. It sets up an almost impossible standard and puts negativity on the shows and contestants because of statements that they need to produce superstars in order to be successful.
I think the accomplishment from all these shows is that contestants can make a name for themselves and build a fanbase which enough to do music for a living, where they might not have otherwise. Anything more is the exception.
Exactly! Champion and Yvette are placing too high of an expectation on these people.
Here are my two cents about the issue:
I don’t believe being on any of these shows is for nothing, because even if they are local musicians, many are unknown before they are on the show, and can build their careers even locally from being on the show. David Cook and Kris Allen were known locally in their regions, and had a following before they were on Idol but now have a big enough audience to sustain even an indie music career. They might not have had enough of a local audience to be able to do this if they had not been on any kind of national show.
See David Grohl’s take on how real musicians feel about singing shows: www. loudwire . com/dave-grohl-blasts-tv-singing-competitions
I love Dave’s music and see his point but I think if someone’s truly an original talent then they won’t need those shows to find their way to success
I expect that some of the Voice non-winners are eventually going to break through, but it takes time for artists, especially the young ones, to make contacts in the industry, develop material, get more performing experience, find a band, develop their sound, etc. It’s not necessarily a surprise that some of the winners haven’t gone on to great things because it takes somewhat different skills to succeed on the show than it does in the music industry. The format favors people with experience and performing skills who can put together a consistent set of entertaining performances and convey a clear musical identity in the pressure cooker environment of the show. However, this does not necessarily translate to being a marketable current artist (especially for experienced artists who previously got dropped by labels, don’t change their sounds and styling sufficiently, or are aging out of the industry). Moreover, the days are long past when record companies want to sign a runner up right off one of these shows and put together a quick album to try to cash in.
It’s more honest for the show to level with contestants that being on the show is an opportunity to perform on national tv, meet some musical stars and other striving unknown artists from around the country, and go through a kind of music industry boot camp. They’re making a TV show after all, not running a label. It’s up to the contestants to figure out where to take the experience after the show. That takes time, and nothing’s guaranteed. I think this has been acknowledged behind the scenes for awhile, and now it’s being acknowledged publicly. (Being brutally honest, Adam Levine has called the Voice “a game show for celebrities” and I think he’s told his team members this in private to manage expectations and encourage them to get what they can from their time on the show.)
For 20-something artists with the right combination of talent, looks, relevance, and contacts, the show can be a good opportunity to boost their careers. The Swons seem to be well on their way with their first single. They were lucky to have a good combination of prior experience, a sound that fits in with country’s current dalliance with classic rock, plus industry contacts. They’ve had help both from Blake as well as Carrie Underwood, who went to college with Zach Swon. Judith Hill seems to be poised for an album launch sometime this fall/winter. She’s been doing a lot of fashion spreads, industry and charity events, and apparently she’s worked with both Prince and Isa Machine (from Florence +the Machine) on material for her album. Clearly Sony’s invested some money in all of this so I don’t think she will disappear. Dia Frampton might finally make inroads when her latest project Archis with Joseph Trapanese (a film composer who’s worked with Daft Punk) launches next year on a (as of yet unnamed) small label. From what I’ve heard, its the best work she’s ever done.
I expect that at least one of the younger contestants with deals like Melanie Martinez, Jacquie Lee, Christina Grimmie, Caroline Pennell, etc. will find some success. Some of the self-releasing artists are doing ok too. Grace Askew seems to be getting some good press coverage for her recent self-released album and hopefully she’ll make inroads in Americana circles. Michelle Chamuel is touring a soon-to be self-released album this fall. There’s a bunch of other alumni who are self-releasing music, and perhaps at some point a few of them will be able to get signed too after taking more time to develop.
As for the current winner, Josh Kaufman, some of the press he did for his recent Indy Jazz Fest appearances alluded to a “blockbuster opportunity.” So far, he’s only talked about working on a single, so there might be something else in the works. Maybe that just means he will pop up at a couple of dates on Usher’s forthcoming tour. But, perhaps it could mean that the label is going to send him on the road as an opening act for someone else and lay a foundation for launching an album if things go well with both the single and tour. I’m also curious to see if he ends up as a Republic artist, or if Universal will have one of its other labels manage him, as happened with the country winners and Big Machine. It would make sense for a more adult-oriented imprint like Verve to take him on, especially because of his jazz background, since they also have a few AC artists on their roster. If I were managing him, I would try to initially position him as an AC artist with jazz and soul elements in his music, try to get some songs on radio and build up the audience, and keep the option open for him to cross over fully to jazz in the future.
Quite frankly, people here are getting tired of you ranting about this non-controversy. It’s far easier for a chart-topping artist with a huge fan-base to get a new career bump, than it is for a completely unknown artist to suddenly become a star, which is why complaining about the disparities in success is utterly ridiculous.
Some would also argue that the Voice owes its success to the coaches more than vice versa. If the panel had been composed of 4 different artists, would the Voice still be this successful? If they didn’t have the right chemistry, I’d say no. People also forget that all of these coaches (except Blake) were able to win multiple Grammys and top the charts without the help of the Voice. Yes they weren’t in the peak of their musical careers when they joined the Voice, but they certainly weren’t in a complete slump either (otherwise the Voice wouldn’t have hired them). Plus, I can’t think of a single artist who doesn’t go through peaks and troughs in their musical careers. There’s always a catalyst that helps to re-boost their career, and if it wasn’t the Voice, it could have been something else. It just seems strange to credit the Voice for the success of an artist who has already had multiple rounds of success.
The other irony is that most of the coaches fared much better on the charts prior to the Voice. I don’t think that the Voice did much to boost the singles released by Cee Lo, Usher, Shakira or Christina. Christina performed multiple singles on the Voice yet they all flopped and she had to cancel her tour (the songs where she was the featured guest don’t count because they aren’t technically-speaking, her song). How exactly did the Voice boost her musical career, when all of her hits happened before the voice? Contrast Christina with Robin Thicke, who performed only once on the Voice and his song shot to # 1 the US itunes. The bottom line is this: If you don’t have a song that reasonates with viewers, a Voice performance will not help. The same rules apply for both coaches and guest artists alike.
We all have different definitions of success. Some of the Voice artists have seen modest success even if they aren’t topping the Billboard charts. I certainly wouldn’t call them failures even if others do.
Their “my show is better than your show” nonsense is rather childish!
Yes! That, plus they are hypocritical!
These shows are about making entertaining TV first, music launching platform second.
While the exposure of being on a show with a lot of viewers like Idol in it’s golden days is absolutely awesome, I think there are several other factors at play. Like, how current and marketable the contestant is and what kind of music they can pull off genre-wise. Then, do they get capable and invested management and label post show? And so on. I mean, Taylor Hicks won the most watched season of Idol and he didn’t become a superstar. At the end of the day, winning any of these shows matters only so much. What happens afterwards is a lot more important.
Oversaturation. That’s the problem. We have way too many winners these days, and it’s frankly impossible to be launching multiple, platinum-selling artists year after year. Clarkson benefited from
American Idol being new and the center of the pop culture conversation at the time. That water-cool chatter surrounding AI has since died, and
while popular, the Voice can’t touch that buzz. (Also, that’s not to take anything away from Clarkson, who is a true talent).
Underwoodalso benefited from AI still being relatively young, which when combined with the “awe shucks” Southern charm and her voice, made it easy for her to break through. Cowell declaring her early on in the competition (after her rendition of “Alone”) as the future best-selling AI winner of all time didn’t hurt, either.
The Music Industry has gone to Europe to find talent they can’t find in the USA because they are eager to find Fresh New talent all the time..it makes more money. It’s not about over saturation…it’s about Talent. Full package Talent that can sing Live without autotune help and stage presence. When a True Superstar emerges, it’s very rare. I’m sick of the industry studio creating a person because they look good but can’t sing Live..and use autotune and back tracks during concerts and awards shows! That is a sham and I don’t want to hear it anymore.
It absolutely IS about oversaturation.
Exactly! I think the ratings slide shows that people are getting sick and tired of reality shows.
www. vulture. com/2014/06/America-is-really-tired-of-singing-competitions. html
Contestants on the Voice aren’t usually “camera ready” and the show
doesn’t work with stylists enough to help the singers portray an
“image”–too much emphasis on The Voice and nothing else.
Winners need to put out material similar to the kind that helped them win The Voice and made people love them.
Winners also need to get their debut CD out within 60 days.
Lastly, winners need to go with a genre that appeals to CD buyers and downloaders (12-35) or they won’t sell music.
I agree. It is about talent but there’s also more to it, as I mentioned in my post below.
Adam Lambert broke the mold for any singing competition and HE is what they are trying to find again year after year..A Worldwide Superstar! AI would be lucky to have Adam as Mentor or judge and contestants blessed to get Adams innovative Artistic Honest advice for their careers. Anytime Adam Lambert appears on AI is a gift.
Talent went downhill after Adam’s season.
Amen to that! After Adam’s season, I quit watching it as obsessively as I used to!
Only time I tune in to Idol now is to check out who the final two are.
there is only one adam. the rest are dust in the wind. no one has come close to adam since season 8. end of story
Perhaps the larger question is who says everybody has to be a
superstar? How many superstars have there been overall? – probably not
more than a handful in each generation and fewer than that can last long
enough to make it to the next generation. Maybe Adam Lambert will
never be just “Adam”, but he’s a got a pretty good career going for
him. AI and The Voice can help the contestants get some polish and
recognition and a leg up in the business, but expecting them to create a
superstar is like expecting to win 500 million from a $1 lottery
ticket.
Right, it’s Rare to find that Superstar. They are few and far between. That’s what makes AI so intriguing because it is possible, but not every year even though they have had a major talent from almost every year except a couple. Many great talents didn’t even win but have huge success and all of them are still currently relative and still successful. And the biggest Superstars we have have come from American Idol. It does help find talent and I’m grateful for that because the viewer votes on what We want..it’s not just up to the Industry.
I saw Paul McCartney in concert in October and saw Daughtry in concert in November. Sir Paul was able to sell out the whole arena. Daughtry barely sold half the arena.
You bring up a good example. Although a handful of Idol alums are now somewhat huge stars who will probably
stick around for at least the next 5-10 years, I think a long-lasting music career comes down to more than just skill.
I think the biggest reason the voice hasn’t had a star yet is partly due to the age of the winners. Many of them have been mid-30s and over, which is hard to market in a youth-driven industry.
Also, unlike Ryan Seacrest, Carson Daly doesn’t not have the same level of success outside of the reality show in which to talk about the releases of the cds and new music of the contestants.
Speaking of Carson, to quote what he said in an interview one time on the Today show:
“But the real question is, what do you think successful is?” he
continued. “Is someone successful when they sell a million records? Tell
that to Norah Jones, who won a Grammy (but) who hasn’t (sold that many
records). There’s different views of success. We think an artist can pop
from ‘The Voice’ that’s a great talent, that may not be commercially
huge but is very successful.”
I very much agree with that.
Why try out for the VOICE if you end up back in the same place before the VOICE?. Almost 7 seasons completed and “ZERO” Superstars!
They are better off financially than they were before.
Karen C • 43 minutes ago
I think that even though it probably helped Idol that Kelly and Carrie became so successful, it isn’t fair to compare every other winner of every singing competition in the US to to them, and to do so actually hurts the shows. Saying they were the only ones that were successful implies every other winner was a failure, when in fact some have been moderately successful.
It might be more of the exception that they did become superstars after being launched from this type of show, with the norm being more moderate success that we have seen from these shows. It sets up an almost impossible standard and puts negativity on the shows and contestants because of statements that they need to produce superstars in order to be successful.
I think the accomplishment from all these shows is that contestants can make a name for themselves and build a fanbase which enough to do music for a living, where they might not have otherwise. Anything more is the exception.
My two cents as well:
I don’t believe being on any of these shows is for nothing, because even if they are local musicians, many are unknown before they are on the show, and can build their careers even locally from being on the show. David Cook and Kris Allen were known locally in their regions, and had a following before they were on Idol but now have a big enough audience to sustain even an indie music career. They might not have had enough of a local audience to be able to do this if they had not been on any kind of national show.
No one has yet mentioned the power of a great and powerful record producer and what that can yield in terms of sales success.
Definitely! Like Clive Davis and Whitney Houston. Or David Foster and his many proteges.
It’s ridiculous to ask a program to produce an A-list talent by the end of the season. Even at the height of American Idol’s power, that reality competition program still missed quite a few times when it came to picking the right person.
Mates,you gotta chill cause I bet he gave constructive critisism. Hes a pro
This “my show is better than your show” nonsense is rather childish!
I watch both shows & I agree there are positives & negatives to both. I am tired of the comparison with the shows. I have found artists I like from both shows that I have bought music from post-show.
If you asked me to name a successful contestant from The Voice, Chris Mann is the first name to come to mind. Even though he’s a niche artist and he has recently been tapped to star in the title role of the national tour of “Phantom Of The Opera” and he has had 2 PBS specials with a successful tour of 50+ shows last year.
I think that the level of success achieved post-show of anyone who had the kind of exposure that AI gave them is basically up to them. I don’t want to give AI too much “credit” in how ultimately successful anyone from the show ends up being, because I think that is not giving enough credit to the individuals who were on the show. Still, AI (at one time) was a tremendous opportunity for huge, sustained exposure to a diverse audience, which cannot be dismissed, but I don’t think that it’s fair to think that AI ‘created’ superstars.
Completely agree with this. That’s why I don’t totally agree with everything Champion and Yvette are saying.
I just can’t get worked up about one show being better then another I see all of these shows as something to sit back and relax to after 10 or 12 hours at work, maybe debate the merits of the contestants competing with each other but I have a hard time debating which show is better then which. I’m happy there are multiple shows because I find them a great mechanism to find new artists, especially the ones the step outside of the mainstream. I have been introduced to many artist that I have followed for years on AI, Rockstar, The Voice, the Sing off, and a couple of others that have slipped my mind right now.
Same with me!
I think the format of The Voice vs. AI plays a role. AI eliminates contestants one by one beginning with Top 12/13. While on the Voice, they chop them left and right, 2/3 at a time. The Voice’s format always makes me feel like we don’t get to see more of our faves. It is fast paced, but feels very rushed when they finally get to the top 12 – by then they’ll have 4/5 shows left.
The fact that most people are forgetting is that Idol had hands in the artist careers after the show (19 Entertainment). The Voice does not. Voice winners only receive a recording contract. Without strong management backing and brokering promotion with the record labels its hard to get a new artist buzz.
It really wasn’t until Kelly’s Breakaway album that helped established her as a bonafide pop star and GAVE american idol credibility. Carrie’s success would’ve not been possible if it wasn’t for Kelly to be honest. She is the one who helped American Idol, not the other way around.
Precisely!
Scott Borchetta has been confirmed as the Idol mentor for season 14
www. mjsbigblog. com/american-idol-14-scott-borchetta-mentor-release-winners-music. htm
I think that even though it probably helped Idol that Kelly and Carrie became so successful, it isn’t fair to compare every other winner of every singing competition in the US to to them, and to do so actually hurts the shows. Saying they were the only ones that were successful implies every other winner was a failure, when in fact some have been moderately successful.
It might be more of the exception that they did become superstars after being launched from this type of show, with the norm being more moderate success that we have seen from these shows. It sets up an almost impossible standard and puts negativity on the shows and contestants because of statements that they need to produce superstars in order to be successful.
I think the accomplishment from all these shows is that contestants can make a name for themselves and build a fanbase which enough to do music for a living, where they might not have otherwise. Anything more is the exception.
Right on! Moderate success is what I see as the norm as well.
I don’t believe being on any of these shows is for nothing, because even if they are local musicians, many are unknown before they are on the show, and can build their careers even locally from being on the show. David Cook and Kris Allen were known locally in their regions, and had a following before they were on Idol but now have a big enough audience to sustain even an indie music career. They might not have had enough of a local audience to be able to do this if they had not been on any kind of national show.
Adam is one of a kind. No other talent show will find anyone like him. He will be around for a long time….Legend!
TV singing shows failing to create shows is a surprise? The best you can hope for from one of these shows
is that it is a measure of musical skills. Just in the last few years,
people from Brittany Spears to Lady Gaga to Justin Beiber etc. etc. have
conclusively demonstrated that stardom has very little to do with
music.
That should read: create stars not create shows
Look, people. Here’s the bottom line: Look at the popular singers in the last 20 years – Carrie Underwood, Kelly Clarkson, Beyoncé, Rihanna, Katy Perry, Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, Leona Lewis, Mariah Carey, etc. What do they have in common?.. s exy. Are they all the greatest singers?… no.
Why do you think Carrie Underwood gets tapped to host the CMA’s? Because she’s the greatest singer in the world? No,because she’s beautiful and s exy, and a good singer.
If one ofthese shows can produce a very good singer who is sexy, it will give ita shot in the arm. I know… its not fair to the talented singers who
aren’t the most attractive, but reality is still, as it has been for
centuries,.. S ex Sells.
Here’s the bottom line: Look at the popular singers in the last 20
years – Carrie Underwood, Kelly Clarkson, Beyoncé, Rihanna, Katy Perry,
Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, Leona Lewis, Mariah Carey, etc.
What do they have in common?.. s exy. Are they all the greatest
singers?… no.
Why do you think Carrie Underwood gets tapped
to host the CMA’s? Because she’s the greatest singer in the world? No,
because she’s beautiful and s exy, and a good singer.
If one of
these shows can produce a very good singer who is s exy, it will give it
a shot in the arm. I know… its not fair to the talented singers who
aren’t the most attractive, but reality is still, as it has been for
centuries,.. S ex Sells.
And on the male side, Justin Bieber, Justin Timberlake, One Direction, etc. etc. All attractive.
Sorry for the duplicate. Had to fix some spelling errors and make some additions.
Sad but oh so true!
I watched Christmas in Rockefeller Center Wednesday night. Between Mariah’s cleavage, Lady Gaga’s cleavage, and LeAnn Rimes trying to be s exy while singing a children’s Christmas song, the show should have been rated PG-13.
I agree. They ruined the program for me.
See David Grohl’s take to see how real musicians feel about singing shows: kroq.cbslocal .com/2013/01/17/dave-grohl-on-music-stardom-without-the-help-of-american-idol/
I love Dave and see his point but I think if someone’s truly an original talent then they won’t need those shows to find their way to success.
I agree with Brian.
Disagree! Why do you think both Candice and Caleb kept coming back after getting the boot?
I disagree. Look at Adele as an example.
Like Grobanite said below, Josh Groban is another good example of someone who became famous naturally. His music teacher sent a demo of Groban to the legendary producer David Foster. Foster liked what he heard and signed him to a recording contract.
Michael Buble is another good example.
Josh Groban is a good example. He didn’t need to go on a singing competition to become famous.
Taken collectively, TV competition shows have too much of a love affair
with older musical styles rather than the contemporary music one
hears on the radio. In my opinion, this is the key reason many winners of “American Idol” and “The Voice” and “X-Factor” have struggled in post-show music sales.
Yes! A shortened version of what I was talking about earlier! Many of the contestants have old-fashioned styles. And, in the case of many of The Voice contestants, as someone mentioned earlier, being over 30 works against them in a youth-driven industry.
That’s the same issue I had with that guy that won Rising Star this summer.
Hello just thought i would ring in a comment… Talk all the mess you want about AI but why down the most popular music talent show there isThe Voice.. I like the fact that you don’t get to visually see the singer it all about the voice and while they are prescreened its cuts out all the silly stuff and right to the point of the show……. Some people my like the silly stuff and done people like to get to the point and actually its supposed to be about singing, they actually get coached top become better singers….
That’s why you see what’s become of the Voice winners(runner ups, etc.) after the “SHOW”s OVER”—-NOT! LOL Note: NOW you can pre-order Jena Irene’s “I Can’t Help Falling in Love with You” on iTunes!
Yet YOU keep ignoring the fact that many of Idol’s winners and runner ups aren’t that well-known outside of what die-hard Idol fans are left.
LOL! Like Lee Dewyze, for example! Whatever happened to him anyway?
Or Kris Allen, who nobody cares about.
Or Ruben Studdard, who whose career has been consistently in the shadow of the person he beat for the title, Clay Aiken.
Same thing applies to Taylor Hicks, consistently in the shadow of Daughtry, who should have won that season, by the way.
Precisely!
Thanks for that Idol Girl!
Add David Cook, who’s back to being an indie artist now. Sure, he’s making a living, but that’s not a “superstar”.
Exactly! That’s how I would describe those that aren’t on Kelly or Carrie level from Idol, The Voice, XFactor – making a living but not “superstars”.
I think the ultimate reason for the lack of “superstars” is The Voice gets niche singers. They find these people with very unique and cool voices that maybe are just too off the beaten-path to make it mainstream, but they can still be extremely successful within their own genres and niches. I can name quite a few of the contestants that have been putting out some albums and getting some degree of success. Not multi-million dollar success no, but enough that they can keep doing what they love to do.
But in an even grander sense, the Voice waits too long before it has its contestants put their albums out. Idol has its first CDs out within a couple of months of someone winning, before America and its 2-year-old attention span can forget about them. The Voice needs to pick up the pace a little bit on getting something out sooner for its winners.
Yes! Precisely!
We should just except these people to be good singers, not expect them to be instant superstars. The Kelly Clarksons are the exception, not the rule. Success isn’t about putting out a good performance on one or two songs once a week for a few months but putting in a ton of demanding work.
There’s a lot of pressure, time away from family and friends and letting other people make decisions about your life…someone might be a great singer but just not have the temperament or discipline to make the thousands of sacrifices it takes to make it to the top. And to go on tour? That’s a herculean amount of work.
Excellent advice NJLiz!
My advice is you should just take the show for what it is. A good contest/game show. The Bachelor/Bachelorette has a HORRIBLE track record for matching couples that stay together, but that doen’t keep people from watching that drivel. The Voice actually has people with talent.
When she doesn’t top the charts, don’t get too disappointed.
Out of curiosity, I listened to the snippet on iTunes. I much prefer Angie Miller, from the previous season, as a vocalist over Jena.
Jena’s vocals are too mush mouth for my tastes.
I agree. I prefer my singers to clearly pronounce the words they are singing, not mumble them.
Yes! Definitely! Same issue I had with Siobhan Magnus’s voice several seasons ago.
“NO” labels were interested in Angie’s vocals as they were not distinct enough-like Jena’s!
The last I heard, Jena still hasn’t been signed to a label. See this link:
idolforums. com/index. php?showtopic=719699
I’ve heard that Angie had said that she had offers to sign deals with record labels but turned them down because she would have had to compromise her music and the way she looks and dresses on stage.
They probably wanted her to dress $lutty. See Paul’s post above concerning that.
I don’t expect her to do as well as Sam Smith’s redo of “Stay with Me”, but it will be a start to introducing her “ORIGINALS” that she can “JENAFY” much like Mozart did.
LOL!
Note: I may have exaggerated a tad when comparing Jena to Mozart. LOL
Yup. Quite a bit.
For me, the bottom line with Jena is that, as creative as she is, at this point, as a 17 18 year old, her voice really was’t as strong as some of the past seasons… even some also young singers. Don’t get me wrong Jena’s voice is very very strong, but just not strong enough to be a singer that wins idol on the stregnth of a strong voice. While I say she is creative, for me, other than the wonderful cover of the “can’t help falling in love with you” her creativeness just missed for me…other than that one song, her admirable attempts to do other things didn’t bring more to the songs with me. Good for her but no A.
I did an interesting “test” this morning since I don’t watch The Voice and was curious as to how it plays outside of the typical blogs and TV or enternainment eccentric online sites. Since I remember when Idol, in its heyday, was covered in every major newspaper both online and printed.
Well, I don’t see much of anything reported on this show….it may be a nice TV night of entertainment but it sure hasn’t made it into the non-viewing public consciousness as far as I can gather. No wonder its winners aren’t embraced.
It’s become the same way with Idol lately. Not much buzz about it anymore.
That’s why I don’t think Jena, Caleb, Alex or anyone from this recent season of Idol will be huge like Carrie or Kelly. The best they can hope for now is some small level of success like Phil Phillips.
I think it’s going to be the same way. They aren’t going to multi-million dollar successes. I think those days are over.
You’re trying to compare two AI Superstars that have been in the games 10 plus years. However it won’t take Jena Irene 8 years(like Arianna Grande’) to make her mark “IN MY OPINION”. Look back, I’m 90% correct in what I say. LOL
I’m in agreement with Girly Girl. The days of someone from these shows becoming a multi-million dollar seller are over.
The way I see it, these shows are churning out Broadway performers. Several from Idol have gone into musical theater since the show and now several from the Voice have gone into musical theater. I remember Simon acted like that was a bad thing but I very highly disagree with him. The folks that make it on Broadway are some of THE most talented
performers around. They do it live and without auto-tune 8 shows a
week–plus many of them act and dance. This Broadway insult thing that has been
on AI has been a thorn in my side for years.